Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[3]] Joker (2019) [imdb]

This movie passed 3 of 3 tests (although dubious). It was entered by monkee on 2019-10-08 00:22:08.

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monkee said:
Arthur's neighbor Sophie briefly interacts with her daughter GiGi about how their bad their building is. This is technically a pass, but it is dubious for various reasons:
- Sophie is more trying to shut her daughter up than actually talk to her; the focus of her interaction is rather on Arthur.
- We don't even know their names from the movie itself, only the credits;
- This is one of those cases where the entirety of the movie passing hangs on basically one line.
Message posted on 2019-10-08 00:22:08
Peter disagreed with the rating and said:
a name in the credits should not count, it's not really part of the story or viewers experience
Message posted on 2019-11-16 12:42:43
Bianca disagreed with the rating and said:
I feel like a womens child will not pass as "woman" and as already stated in the original rating the two females' names are unknown unless you look into the credentials. Therefore the movie should get no pass on this test.
Message posted on 2019-12-03 20:43:12
Robbie Pierce disagreed with the rating and said:
If the characters are not named in the film then I don't think it counts?
Message posted on 2020-01-13 19:32:01
Melissa disagreed with the rating and said:
I mean, it definitely doesn't pass, we don't get the kids name so... it's a hard no.
Message posted on 2020-02-11 18:02:33
Daniel Hofverberg disagreed with the rating and said:
I agree that this should not count as a pass. A child definitely counts as a "woman" for the test, but characters only named in the credits and not the actual film should not count as "named" characters - it would be unreasonably otherwise, as some movies name pretty much the smallest extras in the closing credits.
Message posted on 2020-02-15 02:04:07
Stephanie disagreed with the rating and said:
I don't think it counts if they were only named in the credits. Gotta be in the movie itself
Message posted on 2020-02-18 17:16:13
Jessie disagreed with the rating and said:
Though you learn Gigi’s name in the movie, you only learn Sophie’s name in the credits. She is not a named character. And their short interaction shouldn’t even count. The test is based off observations from Jane Austin where she points out women in fiction are only viewed in relation to men and as stereotypical female roles, as a mother for example.
Message posted on 2020-04-23 14:23:53
Vishwaraj disagreed with the rating and said:
The name of the character has to be in the movie not in the credits
Message posted on 2020-04-28 04:50:01
Robbie said:
This passes since many characters in other movies aren't named. The Xenomorph in Alien doesn't have a name but it is female and counts.
Message posted on 2020-08-27 18:39:25
Fargoth said:
It's interesting how much there is a necessity to voice disagreement with this when the movie goes against the interests of a certain political leaning.
Message posted on 2020-08-28 03:25:35
Art said:
When did knowing the character's names become part of the rating? If both had stated their names would that have made this a more feminist-friendly movie? It passes because the rules are that they talk about something other than a man. I didn't chose the rating system but it's intentionally this simple.

The whole rating system means nothing because whether this passes or not doesn't impact the movie at all.
Message posted on 2021-05-25 01:39:21

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