Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[3]] Dazed and Confused (1993) [imdb]

This movie passed 3 of 3 tests. It was entered by simmy on 2010-05-28 03:48:12.

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Caroline disagreed with the rating and said:
I love this movie, and I haven't seen it in a while, but thinking about the women talking scenes, I can't think of any non-boy related conversations. There's the part in the bathroom when Shavonne, Kaye, and Jodi are talking about Gilligan's Island, but they're talking about how the men on the island view Ginger and Mary-Anne as sex objects (which I think would constitute talking about men?) Other than that I don't seem to remember any instances of women talking to each other. Except for when the seniors are yelling at the freshmen during the hazing. Does that even count? Cynthia is probably the most feminist character, but her friends are both dudes. Of course, there's the awesome teacher:

Ms. Ginny Stroud: Okay guys, one more thing, this summer when you're being inundated with all this American bicentennial Fourth Of July brouhaha, don't forget what you're celebrating, and that's the fact that a bunch of slave-owning, aristocratic, white males didn't want to pay their taxes.

But that's not a conversation, she just says it to the class.

And there's the part where Shavonne is upset because the other girls called her a bitch -- not very promising in the feminist arena.

As IMDB has jogged my memory, I'm sorry to say that I don't think it passes the test. However I don't think it's a total loss, as far as feminism goes. The women all seem independent and bad-ass enough that they don't yield to men, although they do talk about them, or each other disparagingly, a lot.

/Essay on Dazed and Confused
Message posted on 2011-06-22 04:16:53
Delongpre said:
Caroline, just because a conversation does not qualify to you as being feminist, doesn't mean if fails the test. The conversation the three girls have in the truck is about another girl. It passes.
Message posted on 2012-04-19 06:13:37
Ben said:
Actually the test isn't that specific. The criteria was laid out to be a simple bare minimum. That it passes those requirements allows it to pass the test.
That said, it also passes when Joey Lauren Adams is talking to the freshman girl, which I think happens at least twice.
Message posted on 2012-04-19 08:03:24
Ben said:
Actually the test isn't that specific. The criteria was laid out to be a simple bare minimum. That it passes those requirements allows it to pass the test.
That said, it also passes when Joey Lauren Adams is talking to the freshman girl, which I think happens at least twice.
Message posted on 2012-04-19 08:04:51
Dave said:
This film, as part of its structure, separates the women and men for about the entire first half, giving ample time for women to talk to each other about the beer bust, the freshmen girls they got to humiliate, and a variety of other things.

The Gilligan's Island conversation is a little iffy since it's about a TV show. However, the point of the conversation is about how the show is a male fantasy, which in no small part makes it a conversation about men, even if it isn't about a "man" or even people that are real.

All the same, it doesn't mean the film doesn't pass the test. There are multiple instances of women talking to women in this film, and not all of them are hostile (though many of them are, but it's just high school kids being assholes, so whatever).
Message posted on 2014-09-23 04:09:05
Dylan said:
Actually, though the conversation about Gilligan's Island is about male characters on a TV, what the characters are doing is nothing less than what people on forums like this are doing, they are analyzing culture and looking at the near sexist roles for women on television. I'd say that's pretty feminist, especially for a group of high school girls in the 70s.
Message posted on 2016-04-12 02:30:37

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