Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[2]] Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018) [imdb]

This movie passed 2 of 3 tests. It was entered by Javier on 2018-05-25 03:21:11.

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Javier said:
Aboard the Millennium Falcon, Qi'ra and L3 (female droid) talk to each other about Lando and love. This is the closest we get to two female talking alone. Other scenes contain women talking to a group.
Message posted on 2018-05-25 03:21:11
Sandy disagreed with the rating and said:
Dialoge of Qi'ra and L3 starts with question Qi'ra about space outside the ship, then L3 talks about dangerous of Kessel Run. And after that they talks about relationships. Formally - they had conversation with each other not about men, but only in 2 lines.
Message posted on 2018-05-26 22:57:49
Lilly said:
Not sure if it passes the test or not, as there's a brief scene where Qi'ra and Enfys Nest are exchanging like three sentences. I don't know if that counts as they are technically also about men, just not that obviously.
Message posted on 2018-05-27 21:32:19
Meghan said:
Qi'ra and Enfys Nest also have a brief discussion by themselves, but they only talk about Han and Beckett.
Message posted on 2018-05-28 01:49:49
Meghan disagreed with the rating and said:
Technically though the imperial emmigration officer and Qi'ra did talk about the coaxum while they were trying to bribe their way through the gates.
Message posted on 2018-05-28 01:58:22
Aegee said:
After Qi'ra takes out a guy, L3 comments about the move. Qi'ra then says Dryden taught her. Technically, they're talking about the move, and not Dryden, so it might pass, but it would be dubious. (I don't think it's dubious that L3 should count as female character, though. She's definitely female.) Only other female/female dialogue is when Qi'ra talks to Enfys (though I don't remember if she's named in the movie), but they are definitely talking about Han and Beckett.
Message posted on 2018-05-28 17:37:41
Gio said:
two female characters also speak when Qi'ra and Enfys Nest interact, but it's only a few words that solely focus on Han.
Message posted on 2018-05-29 01:26:04
Gio said:
two female characters also speak when Qi'ra and Enfys Nest interact, but it's only a few words that solely focus on Han.
Message posted on 2018-05-29 01:26:08
Addison disagreed with the rating and said:
Before Qi’ra and L3-37 talk about Lando in the same scene, they discuss the maelstrom they are flying through for a few seconds.
Message posted on 2018-05-29 17:31:31
Jake disagreed with the rating and said:
Qira and L3 talk in a later scene in passing. About what’s happening with the uprising taking place, can’t remember exactly what it was about but they weren’t talking about Lando or a man. Granted this movie barely passes and you have to count a droid who sounds like a woman. Weather or not you count L3 merits it’s own conversation.

Also, I wasn’t aware of any rules about the women having to be alone vs talking in a group. Is that that a rule?

Message posted on 2018-05-31 15:30:53
Joe said:
it may pass by the very slimmest technicality when L3 compliments Qi'ra on her fighting technique. But then Qi'ra immediately credits a man for teaching her, which may invalidate the conversation.
Message posted on 2018-05-31 22:52:35
Josh disagreed with the rating and said:
I think Solo actually barely passes. When they're on Kessel, Qi'ra and L3 (female droid) go into the office of the administrator for negotiations and Qi'ra kills him. L3 says "Woah!" and then asks Qi'ra what that was, and Qi'ra responds with the type of fighting she used. I don't remember the exact exchange of dialogue, but I feel like it's enough to barely count.
Message posted on 2018-06-04 23:17:06
Verissa said:
I agree with the rating, If there is so much debate about whether a few lines of dialogue about space weather counts as 'passing' then it should be clear that it doesn't pass.
Message posted on 2018-06-06 20:32:24
Jesse disagreed with the rating and said:
Barely passes is still passes on a pass fail test: L3 and Qi'ra do talk to each other about fighting and the maelstrom.
Message posted on 2018-08-03 20:51:37
Angus said:
Yeah, I'd say mentioning the man who taught her the technique invalidates that conversation.
Message posted on 2018-08-05 04:57:52
David disagreed with the rating and said:
It is not important if there is a discussion here if it counts or not. They have talked about something else and this should count. Few lines or few minutes, it should make no difference as long there are no additional rules.
Message posted on 2018-10-28 22:04:38
Drew disagreed with the rating and said:
Sandy is right, then this film passes the Bechdel test.

-The Kessel Run and the void of deep space seem are definitely not men. In the "Pass/Fail" system of the Bechdel test, this film is definitely a pass. If the film had cut after the first couple lines in that conversation, no one would question it.

-The Bechdel test does not have rules about how long the characters need to talk, nor how they need to not talk about a man later on, or that they need to be alone at the time.

By the very simple "pass/fail" metrics of the Bechdel test, this film passes.

-Other films have been granted a "pass" rating when part of a conversation is about a man (the Last Jedi comes to mind).
Message posted on 2019-04-04 21:08:53
Drew Olds disagreed with the rating and said:
I watched this film again to make sure, and I am quite certain that this film passes the Bechdel test.


First off- there's the conversation that has repeatedly been labeled a 'fail.'

- "What's that sound?"

- "Carbon burgs the size of planets crashing into each other. Ships fly in there, they never come out. It's ionized gas, water vapor- possibly vacuum breathing life forms swirling round the moor. Only way in or out is this channel."

That's not a man.


Also, it turns out that there are other instances where the women address one another.

During the action sequences, they talk about overriding computer systems, and opening doors. Qira gives L3 the signal to get moving back to the ship.

For what it's worth, Qira again addresses L3 directly when she apologizes to (dead) L3 about ripping out her memory processor.


Then, there are instances when the women address groups that include named female characters:

- Qira addresses a group, including Enfys Nest in which she suggests a 'compromise that doesn't involve so much killing."

- Enfys Nest tells the whole group (including Qira- she looks at each of the characters in turn) about the Crimson Dawn's raid on her settlement, and the slaughter of her people.



The Bechdel test only deals with "Pass/Fail" grades, but none of these look all that grey to me.
Message posted on 2019-07-05 23:12:32

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