Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[2]] Ant-Man (2015) [imdb]

This movie passed 2 of 3 tests. It was entered by Nat on 2015-07-17 02:51:16.



Nat said:
Maggie and Cassie Lang talk VERY BRIEFLY about a non-gendered toy whose voice is male. The rest of their conversations are about Scott.
Message posted on 2015-07-17 02:51:16
K said:
Besides the fact that it didn't pass, I think the reason why Hope couldn't be the Antman was pretty flimsy, especially considering how qualified she was compared to Scott.
Message posted on 2015-07-24 17:37:05
Eirik disagreed with the rating and said:
Cassie and Maggie talks about the toy Scott brought Cassie at her party before talking about Scott. If a girl of 6 is classified as a woman it passes.
Message posted on 2015-07-27 20:51:23
GreenBandit said:
I disagree with Eirik. That toy basically represents Scott. The conversation is about Scott.
Message posted on 2015-08-01 23:59:40
Josh said:
It was a solid reason in the real world as stated: Scott is expendable.

The fact that she didn't just steal the suit (was it locked in another safe when Scott wasn't using it) shows that she wanted Hank's blessing to use it.
Message posted on 2015-08-16 00:42:48
Chip said:
While I agree that the movie does not pass the test, I find it important to note the fact that one of the most important subplots is that of sexism in the movie (which is used as a metaphor for sexism in marvel movies). As K (comment above) said, the reason for her not getting the suit was REALLY flimsy, but this was, in essence, Marvel saying, "Yeah, our reasons in the past for not having strong female heroes was very very flimsy." And when (Spoiler Alert) Hank finally gives Hope the Wasp suit, he basically says, "yes. I (aka Marvel) have been an asshole. I didn't let you become the hero because I was worried. But going forward, I'm going to change that and be better about letting you (and all other female superheroes) take much larger roles in the process)."
Message posted on 2015-09-27 16:09:50
John said:
@Chip - You're really stretching there.
Message posted on 2015-11-30 14:53:33
Saitou disagreed with the rating and said:
Maggie and Cassie discuss the prospect of her getting a replacement for Scott's gift, which looks and sounds grotesque. That the toy sounds like a male or was given by a male never factors into the conversation. It's a definite pass.
Message posted on 2015-12-27 10:40:02
Katie disagreed with the rating and said:
I agree with Saitou, this movie should have passed. Also, I believe the reason Hope couldn't wear the suit was pretty solid, her father lost her mother and was scared to lose her too, but that may just be me.
Message posted on 2016-01-21 09:37:27
Chip said:
@ John, if you believe what I wrote was a stretch, then youre disagreeing with what Peyton Reed wrote about it. This was literally what Marvel had to see on the subject.
Message posted on 2016-05-03 14:59:00
DJ disagreed with the rating and said:
Talking about a toy, no matter how metaphorical it may be, is not talking directly about a man. Dolls have neither sex nor gender. Also, Scott is in the topic, but is never the subject. Therefore this passes.
Message posted on 2016-10-28 20:02:40

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