This movie passed 3 of 3 tests. It was entered by Kelsey McKinney on 2015-02-16 18:37:15.
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Kelsey McKinney said:
The majority of conversations in the movie are between Ana and Christian. But what makes Ana a believable character, and a fun one to watch, is that her personality isn't defined by her relationship with Christian.
Message posted on 2015-02-16 18:37:15
Guillermo disagreed with the rating and said:
Ana talk with other women (her mom, her best friend) but a always about Christian. I cant remember any scene that pass the test. Please verified or point the right scene that pass the test. Meanwhile 2/3
PS: A BAD MOVIE WITH LAZY WOMEN REPRESENTATION.
Message posted on 2015-02-20 12:10:08
Anya said:
This movie should serve as a perfect example of why passing the Bechdel Test does not indicate feminism, since Fifty Shades of Grey is one of the biggest examples of rape culture and glorification of abuse to hit the big screen in recent memory.
Message posted on 2015-02-21 00:38:09
Jasmin disagreed with the rating and said:
Who is the named female and what does she and Ana talk about other than men/Christian?
Message posted on 2015-02-21 04:23:52
Emily disagreed with the rating and said:
What's the name of the other female character? Where's the scene in which the two females talk, let alone about a not-guy subject? If Ana isn't defined by her relationship with Christian, that's great (also unexpected), but you need to give Examples, or I'm going to remain skeptical.
Message posted on 2015-02-22 03:54:47
Mery Rodvar said:
I think the only conversation that pass the test was in the beginning when Ana and Kate talk about Christian´s interview and I think they mentioned his name but I´m not sure.
This movie proves ( and not only this movie but a lot of them) that pass the Bechdel test doesn´t make a film feminist. Ana is totally defined by his abusive relationship with Christian so actually the movie is deeply anti-feminist
Message posted on 2015-02-22 11:37:31
Charlotte disagreed with the rating and said:
She is in an abusive relationship portrayed as a romantic story just because the guy is handsome and rich. Not good for women.
Message posted on 2015-02-23 05:19:09
Jackolyn Joyce said:
Somehow fifty shades of grey manages to pass the bechdel test. Ana and Kate have a few conversations about classes, graduation, a valedictorian speech, etc. Ana and her mom also have some conversations related to graduating.
Message posted on 2015-02-24 01:18:29
Rose said:
It managed to pass, but sadly you have to look carefully for conversations that fit the criteria. The main female character, Anastasia, is portrayed as ditzy, helpless and without any ambition.
Message posted on 2015-02-26 03:07:29
Donna Louise said:
It passes, but as mentioned above, it has other anti-feminism problems. As pro-kink, this movie is horrible in its portrayals - kinky women aren't vapid rape magnets and kinky men haven't all been physically molested to explain their proclivities. Nor does twu-wuv "fix" said proclivities. Bleh.
Message posted on 2015-03-30 02:21:01
Clarinda said:
The film passes the test. Both conversations with a friend/mother relate to college graduation. Some of the commenters above keep on confusing passing the Bechdel test with being a feminist film. A film doesn't have to be feminist to pass the test. A film may be chauvinist and pass the test anyway.
Message posted on 2015-05-25 21:26:14
Susan Cooke said:
Thank you, Donna, for the awesome term "twu-wuv". ^_^ I will be using that in my conversations from now on.
Message posted on 2015-05-26 12:58:49
SPACE DOG disagreed with the rating and said:
a film about sexual abuse.... is feminist?? because it passes a bastardized version of a test in a comic strip about the alienation of lesbians in the media?
Message posted on 2015-06-02 21:26:58
JH said:
Space Dog, passing the test doesn't mean the film is feminist. You're under a misapprehension if you think the test is some kind of certification for feminism.
Message posted on 2015-07-01 14:10:39
Julia said:
Space Dog, nobody here is saying the movie is feminist. Quite the contrary.
Message posted on 2015-07-04 01:01:38
kobe disagreed with the rating and said:
I think this is a disgusting movie, gives the right to powerful men for treating their girlfriends however they want and expect more.
Message posted on 2015-07-13 10:05:52
Leland Bourdages disagreed with the rating and said:
so...what does this test measure if not sexism in films? People are saying "the films that pass on this test do not have to be feminist". But sexism, it's causes, solutions, etc, are central parts of the focus of feminism.
Message posted on 2015-07-16 06:41:02
Amanda said:
The Bechtel test is not a feminism test in the first place. It is a purposely low bar set for movies whose purpose really isn't even to test a movie but to point out how rarely female characters are portrayed as more than a male prop in mainstream media. It was never claimed to be a test of whether or not a movie is "feminist."
Message posted on 2015-11-06 17:47:00
kadare said:
The conversations which cause the film to pass the test are pure window dressing almost designed to paint the protagonist as helpless and/or incompetent (they all relate to her anxieties and need for help). But, all the same, they do cause the film to pass the test.
Message posted on 2015-11-21 06:55:23
whatevs said:
how is this movie about abuse? if I remember she consented to everything, isn't that the opposite of abuse. And how can people say this supports rape culture? when was she raped? Does she not say YES ? and further more, did she say stop or no? As a woman and a feminist I support woman choosing and controlling their sexual lives, which is what a thorough detailed contract is needed for ( in the case of bdsm). Why are feminist against sex, then to shame woman who like to be tied up or spanked, why not support each other?
Message posted on 2016-01-03 13:28:03
Angela disagreed with the rating and said:
What is the purpose of this rating if such a misogynist film can pass it?
We really needed movie ratings based on how women are portrayed, but this rating is just a joke. Incredible.
Message posted on 2016-01-03 16:15:17
A sapient raccoon said:
Angela: The test looks at whether a movie shows women having a life outside of men. Even though this movie is creepy and misogynist, it deserves a tiny bit of credit for showing women interacting with each other, which more progressive movies sometimes forget to do.
Message posted on 2016-01-18 18:22:05
rafael said:
just to be clear, the problem is when a movie do not pass the test, passing the test doesn't mean anything
Message posted on 2016-06-03 00:24:48
killyourself said:
As evidenced by some of the inane commenters on here, it's clear that the concept behind this test (and subsequent talk around it) is unadulterated idiocy.
Heck, who cares if a movie doesn't feature two women not talking about a man or just no women altogether? Feminists now think that's worse than all the vulgar things being shown nowadays? Sad stuff.
Message posted on 2016-07-04 02:50:27
Sharpava said:
This passes the test, but just barely. "50 shades" is a r rated version of "Beauty and the Beast". EL James did not do enough (if any) research into the BDSM sub-culture, where the women (Yes, The women) hold all the power! Participants in BDSM, including the clubs, revolves around consent and honors women as sexual beings. This movie did not represent that, and the Ana character was two dimensional and just plain boring.
Message posted on 2016-09-29 13:43:31
Saralyn4TheWIN said:
I agree. Ana talks to her roomate Kate about college things and life many times in the movie.
Message posted on 2018-01-17 16:47:27
Emily disagreed with the rating and said:
Coerced consent is not consent. This franchise is a good example of how just because the female character utters "Yes!" it doesn't mean she's empowered and wholly consenting to SS&C BDSM. She "consents" to let her hot, rich boyfriend do whatever he wants to her because she looooooves him so much and wants to save him. She does not enjoy, want, or get off on pain. Her inner monologues in the book make this explicitly clear.
Also, she stays with the guy who wants to hit and screw her because she looks like his mommy, who he hates and blames for her own abuse. This isn't feminist or empowering or consent. It's abuse and co-dependency.