Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[1]] Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (2014) [imdb]

This movie passed 1 of 3 tests. It was entered by NessieNos on 2014-07-09 17:51:36.



NessieNos said:
This film only features one human woman with a name and a speaking role. There's a female ape who's plot-significant and has a line or two, so generously speaking, you might say the film has "two named women," but she and the human woman don't talk to each other.
Message posted on 2014-07-09 17:51:36
Becca said:
Very generous. The female ape definitely doesn't have a name. I suppose we can say plot significant is the same as having a name...
Message posted on 2014-07-12 04:38:00
James said:
I feel like Caesar's "wife" had a name, I just don't remember it. She has enough plot significance that I would consider it a pass if she talked to Keri Russel's character about something other than men.

I loved this movie, but it scores few points on gender representation. The major female characters are major "support your man" figures. The primary female character in Rise was James Franco's girlfriend, but she also had a significant role as a fellow science-person to foil Franco's position on Caesar and the Alzheimer's drug
Message posted on 2014-07-14 05:01:19
Ore said:
Caesar's wife definitely didn't have a name. If you count plot significance as having a name then maybe it counts. Only then would it pass the first test.
Message posted on 2014-07-14 14:04:50
Mike disagreed with the rating and said:
I didn't feel Caesar's wide much of a plot significance besides your standard damsel in distress trope. She wasn't a character with even remotely the same facets as say Koba or Caesar's son.

I really enjoyed the film too, but I don't feel that it passed the first test.
Message posted on 2014-07-15 13:37:39
MJS said:
Caesar's wife is credited as "Cornelia," don't remember if it actually came up in the movie.
Message posted on 2014-07-16 14:59:32
James said:
Caesar's wife takes part in long meaningful exchanges. She is a character. Not one with as much impact as Koba or Caesar's son, but she isn't the random unnamed female cashier character we use to say X movie doesn't pass because a woman buys a soda from another.
Message posted on 2014-07-17 16:48:38
Red said:
This is a bit tricky. We have a female human and female ape, but the latter's name (Cornelia) was not spoken or written in the subs. Personally, I'd say it counts there; in the previous film, they did say her name.
Message posted on 2014-07-19 23:26:16
Medussa said:
The only significance the female ape had as far as plot line was as the symbol of family. She is the caretaker of the main ape's children, and that is it.
While she also provides an avenue for the human female to show her healing skills, that sub plot could have been accomplished with any other ape as well.
to me, the female ape does not even count as a female character, she's just an extra.
Message posted on 2014-07-21 07:05:19
Lily said:
Sidenote: Keri Russell was mighty quietly supportive to Jason Clarke's mood swings. Understandable that he has them, because he has been through a lot, but so has she. Also understandable that she is supportive, and not a bad thing. BUT for me, it would just be nice to see the quiet, supportive woman yell back for once. Like a real person would do if their girlfriend/boyfriend/husband/wife yelled at them.
Another sidenote: The disappointment when Caeser's 2nd child was born and it was a son. I felt it. Only because I set myself up for it; I was taking mental note of female characters and when the baby is born I was like surely 2 father/son arcs are enough? Maybe we're gonna see a baby girl ape! Baby grape! Neg.
Message posted on 2014-08-04 06:49:58
Lee disagreed with the rating and said:
Caesar's wife had no name. She did not speak to the other female character, who, btw played the stereotypical role of the "healer" and was young, beautiful and thin to boot. This film fell so far short of passing the bechdel test that it seemed such was its intention. Notably, even all the progeny of the two main protagonists were male! I almost walked out, but didn't want to offend my friends.
Message posted on 2014-10-19 15:57:59
Gemi disagreed with the rating and said:
This movie failed each test, so the score should be 0/3. Cornelia's name is in the credits, but her name was not signed by the apes nor spoken. She was pretty much just Caesar's mate who birthed his precious sons.
Message posted on 2014-10-20 13:46:10
keira said:
The film passes the test. Cornelia IS named in the first film (Rise of the Planet of the Apes) so I think she does count as a named female. The two women do talk, they talk about each other (Cornelia is sick, Ellie is healing her).

The film is severely lacking in female characters but it does pass the test.
Message posted on 2015-04-11 14:24:15

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