Bechdel Test Movie List

Elizabeth Swann talks to her maid about men (first about Norrington and Will, then about the pirates coming to town).

When the Black Pearl pursues the Interceptor, Elizabeth and Anamarie discuss the Black Pearl's speed in relation to the Interceptor. Technically, Anamarie does use the pronoun 'they' which could disqualify the conversation as the pirates were male. However, Elizabeth tells Anamarie to drop the anchor later.

I agree with Suzy, and would cite the same examples. This movie--just barely--passes the test.

I agree with Suzy. The first conversation between females that came to mind for me was not the conversation with the maid, but rather Elizabeth and Ana Maria where they are trying to lose the Black Pearl and trying to decide how to accomplish this.

Guys, I know it doesn't pass the test, but its like complaining that there are no blacks in a movie set in 400 BC China. At the time, women aboard ships were considered really bad luck and could result in sailors throwing women overboard. The fact we had three major female characters that were named is pretty impressive.

Three MAJOR female characters? try one.
Plus, in a movie that features living dead pirates for Goddess's sake, we're supposed to accept that there is a total of three women- as opposed to countless men- because 'that's how it was then'.
Please.

Emma: Frankly you're very very VERY wrong. Here are some books that explain in depth why you're wrong.

Female Tars: Women Aboard Ship in the Age of Sail by Suzanne Stark

Hen Frigates: Passion and Peril, Nineteenth-Century Women at Sea by Joan Druett

Hen Frigates: Wives of Merchant Captains Under Sail by Joan Druett

Iron Men, Wooden Women: Gender and Seafaring in the Atlantic World, 1700-1920 edited by Margaret S. Creighton and Lisa Norling

Petticoat Whalers: Whaling Wives at Sea, 1820-1920 by Joan Druett

Sea Queens: Women Pirates Around the World by Jane Yolen

Seafaring Women: Pirate Queens, Female Stowaways and Sailors’ Wives by David Cordingly

The Captain’s Best Mate: The Journal of Mary Chipman Lawrence on the Whaler Addison, 1856-1860 by Mary Chipman Lawrence

Women Sailors and Sailors’ Women: An Untold Maritime History by David Cordingly

Discussing the incoming pirates doesn't count as discussing men, because the gender of the pirates isn't important to the discussion. Some of the pirates may be women and that wouldn't change the purpose of the discussion.

Ditto what thereaverofdarkness said.

Elizabeth and her maid are talking about pirates not because they are men, but because they are a threat to their safety. By this view, talking about war would also equal talking about men.

I've updated the rating from 2/3 to 3/3.