Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[3]] X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009) [imdb]

This movie passed 3 of 3 tests (although dubious). It was entered by neil (webmaster) on 2009-09-12 13:39:57.

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Rachel said:
Without giving too much away, one woman (the previous group leader) asks the other one to take over leadership.

Two women taking charge of a situation, leading mixed groups and talking to each other. It's a short scene towards the end, but my other half thinks it meets the requirements and I'm inclined to agree.
Message posted on 2009-10-21 11:10:31
neil (webmaster) said:
@Rachel: I think I chose this rating (1 of 3) because one of those women isn't actually named. She's just one person's sister. But then again, she has a more active role than many a named character...
Message posted on 2009-10-21 11:28:10
Caitlyn said:
She may not be named, but anyone familiar with the comics knows immediately that she is Emma Frost.

Message posted on 2009-12-03 06:36:01
neil (webmaster) said:
Okay, I've changed the rating to 3 of 3, but dubious.
Message posted on 2009-12-21 21:48:15
PeteW disagreed with the rating and said:
I didn't even notice a second named character.
Message posted on 2011-05-14 18:57:17
Metallicfire said:
She was named Emma Frost, although that's merely a reference to a character from the comics. If the movie were to exist in a vacuum, she serves no purpose other than being Wolverine's girlfriends sister.
Message posted on 2011-05-27 02:37:24
Lisa said:
The character of Emma Frost WAS named, and not just in the comics. At least one preview for the movie clearly states her name as Emma Frost. She likely would've been named in-movie, had another character had reason to call her by name. In my opinion, she counts for the first level of the test, and she's even consequential to the plot (her being kept by Stryker was Silverfox's motivation to have her death faked, which in turn sets off the major part of the plot).

That's not to say I like how this movie used Emma Frost (I don't), but in terms of relevance, she's there.
Message posted on 2012-02-18 07:02:10
Lisa said:
The character of Emma Frost WAS named, and not just in the comics. At least one preview for the movie clearly states her name as Emma Frost. She likely would've been named in-movie, had another character had reason to call her by name. In my opinion, she counts for the first level of the test, and she's even consequential to the plot (her being kept by Stryker was Silverfox's motivation to have her death faked, which in turn sets off the major part of the plot).

That's not to say I like how this movie used Emma Frost (I don't), but in terms of relevance, she's there.
Message posted on 2012-02-18 07:02:11
ASM disagreed with the rating and said:
Rule: 1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it

Kayla's sister wasn't named and Kayle oculd have easily said her name, like thanks Emma etc. I'll have to watch the movie again, but also whenever someone mentions Kayla's sister, they could have said Kayla's sister Emma.

Also chracter isn't really Emma Frost from the comics, since she only uses Emma's secondary mutation ability and not her more useful telepathy. Plus Silverfox and Emma Frost aren't related in the comics.
Message posted on 2012-10-15 18:14:15
hessian said:
According to IMDB Kayle's sister is Emma. But I agree that is sad her name did not called (
Message posted on 2015-09-13 17:31:39
Drew Olds disagreed with the rating and said:
In many other films, the two female characters in question are require to both be named in the duration of the film (outside of the credits).

Being named in a related comic, in the previews, in the toy or in the film's credits do not count. I'd grant a dubious pass if she were named in an after credits sequence.

This requirement is specifically to exclude bit part characters like Emma- an inconsequential cameo appearance- from counting towards the test.

This film fails the test.
Message posted on 2018-05-01 19:11:19
Drew Olds disagreed with the rating and said:
I also think that it should be noted that the film is rather sexist in its representation of Kayla.

Kayla is fridged, then damselled, then fridged again- and finally, she is completely forgotten.

She has a moment of empowerment when she grabs Stryker's leg, but it is completely undercut (she still dies, Stryker suffers no long term consequences).
Message posted on 2018-05-01 19:18:45

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