Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[2]] Gran Torino (2008) [imdb]

This movie passed 2 of 3 tests. It was entered by Oscar on 2009-09-11 22:21:17.



Oscar said:
Although there are several female characters in the film, they either only talk to Clint Eastwood's character or talk about him.
Message posted on 2009-09-11 22:21:17
Lynne disagreed with the rating and said:
There are several scenes in which multiple women speak in a foreign language and most people don't know what they are saying. It appears, though, at least from the context, that they are discussing things. I simply do not believe that everything the women at the gatherings said to each other revolved around Clint Eastwood's character. That interpretation simply does not fit the portrayal of the multi-generational family gathering we are shown.
Message posted on 2010-01-21 02:56:46
Foggen disagreed with the rating and said:
Lynne is right. There are lots of women in this movie, and they do talk to one another. Discounting their dialogue because it's in a foreign language is racist.
Message posted on 2010-05-27 20:39:09
Vivienne said:
@Foggen -- racist? Perhaps English-centric or culturally-elitist but a language does not make a race.

In any case, it's also not racist if these are not actually named characters therefore not meeting the simple criteria of the test.
Message posted on 2010-06-04 06:40:13
j said:
"Discounting their dialogue because it's in a foreign language is racist."

Such (ab)use of that word cheapens it; you should learn what it actually means. And before making such a charge, you need some evidence that that's the motivation, and you have no such evidence. In any case, for the purposes of the test, unsubtitled foreign language can't be counted as "about something other than men" because we don't know what it's about, and dialogue by unnamed characters doesn't count, regardless of what it's about. (Oh dear, antianonymousism!)
Message posted on 2011-07-08 08:48:40
trina B said:
I agree with the rating. If you're thinking about the scene where the women bring eastwood's character food, and he's in the room surrounded by talking women, i don't think that counts. never mind being in a foreign language, the movie doesnt focus on what any of them are saying. you can't hear anything clearly except what sue says to walt, and the minute he leaves the room, the scene ends.
Message posted on 2013-06-14 05:35:50

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