Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[3]] Don Jon (2013) [imdb]

This movie passed 3 of 3 tests (although dubious). It was entered by Trisha Borowicz on 2013-09-13 16:56:28.



Trisha Borowicz said:
Angela, Don Jon's mother, and Barbara, Don Jon's girlfriend definitely talk with each other, and I believe there is a tiny amount of dialogue that isn't directly about Don Jon. For instance Barbara asks if Angela needs help in the kitchen and Barbara says yes. So technically I think this qualifies, but their entire conversation is in the context of their first meeting as important people in Don Jon's life, so it's just barely sneaking a passing grade.
Message posted on 2013-09-13 16:56:28
Elise said:
I agree that the mom and Barbra talked. But I don't think it counts. For it to pass the scene would have to be them in the kitchen.
Message posted on 2013-10-06 00:07:54
Earl disagreed with the rating and said:
Angela and Barbara do not have a conversation, they have a two line interaction in the context of meeting for the first time and while in the company of Jon and dad. As soon as Angela and Barbara leave to the kitchen the scene continues with a conversation between Jon and dad.

This movie, while entertaining at times, is a clear failure of test 3.
Message posted on 2013-10-07 16:44:35
Lisa disagreed with the rating and said:
This movie absolutely failed test 3, I couldn't even remember what the mom and Barbara were talking about, because it was just mumbled polite smalltalk. The sister didn't get to talk at all until it was something (not so nice) about Barbara and that makes it all worse imho.
Message posted on 2013-12-21 20:06:49
lexluthor disagreed with the rating and said:
I don't necessarily disagree with the rating, but Monica, Jon's sister, has a short, profound monologue towards the end where she is talking to her mother (Angela) and Jon. Here, she talks about Jon's ex-girlfriend (Barbara) and types of women in general. And that's just what this movie has to offer, - many types of women - albeit the women in one man's life.
Message posted on 2014-01-05 00:09:58
David said:
I think you people who disagree with the rating need to read the test. It says who talk to each other about something other than a man, not who have a conversation about a man. Seeing as they did technically talk about something other than a man it passes.
Message posted on 2014-01-31 21:32:47
mateja disagreed with the rating and said:
The sister talks directly do Jon, not to the mother, and I'm not sure introducing yourself can qualify as a conversation. The point of the question is to see if women are shown as multidimensional characters who have complex relationships with one another and diverse goals - like male characters do.
Message posted on 2014-02-17 08:16:52

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