Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[0]] Jack the Giant Slayer (2013) [imdb]

This movie passed 0 of 3 tests. It was entered by Rynne on 2013-03-06 09:18:57.



Rynne said:
There is only one female character in the entire movie, aside from maybe some female human/giant extras I didn't catch (but obviously no names and unimportant). The entire race of giants appeared to be wholly male as well.
Message posted on 2013-03-06 09:18:57
Marnie disagreed with the rating and said:
Actually, in the second scene, we see child Isabel with her mother, who is reading to her about the giants. After that scene, I did not see another woman, neither villager nor giant, throughout the movie. But the movie does, technically, pass the test.
Message posted on 2013-03-14 21:24:21
Mars said:
I disagree with Marnie, this movie fails the Bechdel test. The mother-daughter scene is very much about the story of King Eric and the giants can be considered to be primarily male villains.
Message posted on 2013-03-18 05:06:53
luminum said:
Does Isabel's mother have a name? If not, it wouldn't pass the second test metric. It has to be two women with names who talk to one another about something other than a man.
Message posted on 2013-03-19 07:33:03
Ashley said:
Her mother had no name.
Message posted on 2013-03-21 19:22:24
shadebug disagreed with the rating and said:
The mother was both the queen and the mother, she had a defined identity and with the interactions she had there was no reason for her to have a name. If Edward Norton were a woman would we say Fight Club failed because he didn't have a name? (no spoilers)
Also, the conversation that they had may have been predominantly about the legend of King Erik but, more importantly to the story, it was the one where the mother tells the daughter that she is to be queen (not that she is to marry a good king) and it is important that she be independent and adventurous so that she might be a well rounded individual and a decent ruler in her own right.
Though the rest of the film may have forgotten about this, the mother character herself would clearly be a massive fan of everything the test stands for.
Message posted on 2013-03-31 11:43:15
NYCQueen said:
Shadebug is not correct in his logic. The character to which he is pertaining was only referred to as her two 'jobs,' those being Queen and Mother. As a Queen she was subject to her husband's rule (as the film depicted a patriarchy) and she was reduced to merely her biological function by the other role.
Message posted on 2013-04-07 23:16:02
shadebug disagreed with the rating and said:
It depicted a patriarchy? It depicted a land where the daughter was going to take over as queen regardless of whether she was married. The reasons for her father wanting her to marry are never explained at all (but the bechdel test isn't here to look for plotholes, just to point out institutional sexism).
Message posted on 2013-05-05 21:51:54
el-in-dc said:
Particularly sad, this rating, since in the fairy tale there was both a strong female, Jack's mother, and a female-as-prize/object, Jack's love interest. Odd that the older woman disappears and the younger (more Hollywood attractive?) comes to the forefront.
Message posted on 2013-08-06 14:05:36

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