Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[3]] Midnight in Paris (2011) [imdb]

This movie passed 3 of 3 tests. It was entered by carolyna on 2011-07-04 01:43:31.



carolyna said:
It's by Woody Allen, need I say more?
Message posted on 2011-07-04 01:43:32
Stephen said:
I'm pretty sure that Owen Wilson's character's fiancee talks to her mother in the film, just maybe not about anything other than Owen Wilson...
Message posted on 2011-07-06 18:00:41
llamapyjamas said:
Inez (Rachel McAdams's character) talks to the pedantic professor's girlfriend about art or Versailles or something.
Message posted on 2011-07-12 02:30:56
Be said:
Well i think Marion Cotillard's character speaks to Gertrude Stain, and what about Carla Bruni as the museum guide talking to rachel mcadams as Inez?
Message posted on 2011-07-20 00:06:16
Jordan said:
This rating is wrong. There are several times that two named female characters talk to each other, and about something other than a man.

Rachel McAdams talks to her mother about the chairs they plan on buying, and some other items when they are shopping.

Rachel McAdams (Inez) also talks to Carol several times about sightseeing things--not about men.

Marion Cotillard (Adriana) talks briefly to Zelda when Zelda is going to jump into the river.
Message posted on 2011-07-24 19:49:36
Jonathan said:
Yes, but Adriana (and Gil) talk to Zelda about her relationship with F. Scott Fitzgerald!
Message posted on 2011-08-03 07:02:05
Laura said:
This rating is totally wrong. Inez talks to her mother about decor, about the weather sucking, and I'm fairly sure she talks to her about going dancing too.
Message posted on 2011-10-22 17:27:02
wortwut said:
Inez talks to her parents about Gil not going out with them and writing and so on (about a man) and about going dancing with Paul instead (a man). Her mother asks where Carol is and Inez says she had a bad oyster, but that's a throwaway line in the context of Inez going dancing with Paul - maybe this counts, I don't know. Inez talks to her mother about why she has chosen to marry Gil, and what kind of wedding ring she will get - the one scene they have alone is all about Gil.

Carol and Inez talk about Paul teaching at the Sorbonne, there are a couple of group conversations about what the group are going to do together, in which Carol and Inez incidentally speak to each other, but for no more than a sentence, and they are group conversations that in general focus on Paul's knowledge of art or wine, Gil's writing issues or the power struggle between the two of them.

Gertrude Stein never speaks with Marion Cotillard's character, they only talk about the Picasso painting and her beauty, never to her. In fact, three characters spend the whole scene discussing her beauty/sexuality and the painting while she stands there and doesn't speak at all until it's to praise Gil's writing.

The only scene when two is when Inez and her mother discuss the price of the chairs, but Gil is involved in that conversation too ...

The museum guide doesn't talk to Inez, she talks to Paul, and later to Gil. She does address the group of couples, but she never speaks with Inez or Carol. The scene with the group is about Rodin in any case - a man.

I think I would have it pass the first two categories, but not the third. It's the line between incidental speaking and having a reciprocal conversation about something that makes it tricky. I really think the non-man-centred conversations between named female characters in this movie are about men, and only arbitrarily or momentarily otherwise.
Message posted on 2011-11-28 01:52:19
Victoria said:
Actually I think it passes all three, just barely.

It definitely passes the second test as Inez and her mother (Helen) have two totally one-on-one conversations about Gil.

-First when there walking down the street Helen says shes unsure of Gil's talk of giving everything up and moving to Paris and Inez saying it's just talk.

-second when they're packing the car it goes something like
Helen: "tell Gil to bring his suit"
Inez: "oh yeah I forgot to tell you he isn't coming"
Helen: "How come"
Inez: "Because he writes rewrites and rewrites"

As for the third test there are a few words said between Inez and Carol and later Adriana and Zelda (though you can maybe say that was about Scott)

But Inez and her mom have a few asides that branch off a conversation with or about men such the conversation about the chair or the quick question about Carol wortwut pointed out.

But another one and the one I think you can make the best case for counting is when Inez earings are missing she directly asks her mom if she thought it was the maid and she replied its always the maid report it quick. I think it counts because the ignored Gil entirely cutting him out of the conversation actually slightly before this when they were still on moonstones and jewelry taste and were having their own conversation.
Message posted on 2012-04-06 03:07:26
Shannon said:
A big fail to the movie and 90% of the comments on this page...... Your comments are so disappointing: "no, Mcadams talks to the mother about chairs, oysters, jewelry, decor or some other insignificant thing or physical item, which means it passes" You are all missing the point. If you are actually watching the film and looking for the "scapegoat phrase" or brief sentence of dialogue to pass this film then you are really missing the point of the whole test... That's like watching the whitest film ever and stating, "well the film is definitely diverse because in that one bar scene there's a black background performer that you briefly see for 3 seconds"..... totally missing the point guys.... totally missing the point. In this film I see men having philosophical and semi-intelligent (and definitely kitschy) conversations with each other whereas the women are delegated to discussing inanimate objects such as chairs and earrings. BTW this film really makes me want to visit Paris as I have been DESPERATE to find a great set of parlour chairs for my verandah........ do you see where I'm going with this?
Message posted on 2012-05-10 00:48:56
Shannon said:
Victoria, I absolutely love your comment about the aspect of the film that "makes the best case" for it passing the test (ugh, I feel slightly nauseous, it must have been the oysters I had for dinner). Your argument is that two underdeveloped and consistently angry female characters blaming an off-screen working class female character for stealing an inanimate object is a GREAT scene to use as an example of why this film ISN'T gender bias. Bravo....Bravo.... BTW everyone: I have officially booked my trip to Paris as I hear the jewelry is to die for! I must be careful however as I am now an engaged woman and if a man says something remotely intelligent about a French Artist I fear I am likely to forget I have a brain or morals (oh how I am so easily swayed these days!!teehee).. I can't even BEGIN to tell you what happened while vacationing in Barcelona..... do you NOW see where I am going with this?
Message posted on 2012-05-10 01:20:17
cf4 said:
I'm sorry, but something is very wrong with the commentors on this site. On the one hand you dismiss the technicalities of the females in this movie for the subject of their non male-centric conversation being anti-feminist, but on the other hand, refuse to pass a movie like the Avengers because their kick-ass female leads who dominate over their male peers don't have the occasion to hold a conversation. With each other.
It's not a perfect test, I know, but at least have the decency and courtesy to decide on one standard and stick to it.
Message posted on 2012-06-28 05:53:41
emily said:
Wow. A lot of anger regarding this movie. Just for my understanding, is the point of the test to "pass" movies that are feminist or have strong female character or to discuss the roles of women in movies? Because if the point is to pass only feminist movies, no, this movie fails. But if the point is to judge the quantity (not quality) of the role of women in film, then the movie passes. From imdb:

"Helen: We saw a wonderfully funny American film last night.
Inez: Who was in it?
Helen: Oh, I don't know. I forget the name."
Message posted on 2013-02-22 18:25:59
neil (webmaster) said:
I've updated the rating from 1/3 to 3/3.
Message posted on 2013-02-23 06:52:40

> Add comment

> Add review

Back to the list.

Privacy policy