Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[3]] The Twilight Saga: Eclipse (2010) [imdb]

This movie passed 3 of 3 tests. It was entered by Alberich Nibelung on 2010-07-22 23:25:15.

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Becca disagreed with the rating and said:
I do not remember a single bit of dialogue that wasn't revolving around a guy. Unless Bella was actually paying attention to Jessica's contemplation on her graduation speech and offering input?
Message posted on 2010-07-30 20:37:11
Nicole disagreed with the rating and said:
The only real conversation between two women that I can think of is when Rosalie essentially bitched to Bella about why being a vampire and told her all about how she was nearly gang-raped to death.
Message posted on 2010-08-05 01:36:03
Omega said:
^^ True, but that's a conversation. We aren't here to pass judgment on the quality or quantity, we're just observing the facts. The movie clearly passes the test.
Message posted on 2010-08-11 23:01:48
Tracitalynne said:
yep, it passes the test. They all do. There are issues with them, for sure, but there are women, and they don't always talk about men, and they have agency. (mostly they take agency to shag their men, but whatevs.)
Message posted on 2010-08-23 18:39:32
Sherrick disagreed with the rating and said:
This rating system is slick. Eclipse only passes the test due to the fact that the talking between the females DO feature something other than men BUT that's where it stops. The MAJORITY of the talking between women featured men based related talking. If this site REALLY wants to be INFORMAL, put a PERCENTAGE (or time limit) of which the women MUST NOT FOCUS on a man or men and this movie would fail miserably.

Omega, it only passes the test because somewhere else in the talking between women, they talked about something else. Like I stated above, to be informal, put a percentage or minute limit on this.

I've read the book multiple times and the barely passable adaptation of it into a film.
Message posted on 2010-08-29 11:12:32
To Sherrick said:
It's meant to be a low standard. It's not supposed to be a "feminist rating" at all. A movie can be misogynistic and pass the test, or feminist and fail it. It's merely an observation of media - you use the test to look at overall trends. It's not a "score" of an individual movie.
Message posted on 2010-09-11 15:19:56
Renee disagreed with the rating and said:
I believe that there must not be an element of men in the conversation in order for the test to pass. If a man comes up in the discussion, it fails.
Message posted on 2010-10-17 04:01:27
Kat said:
Does Rosalie's conversation with Bella really count, then? It was a lecture on how she's a vampire because she was gang-raped almost to death (by her male fiance and his male friends), rescued by Carlisle (a man), and then met and fell in love with Emmett (also a man).
Message posted on 2010-10-25 01:01:17
futile said:
Eclipse (I won't deign to call it a "film") passes because approximately 52 minutes in Bella speaks to Jess and Angela about her [Jess'] speech. The two girls hear a song they enjoy, and leave. There is no male interaction, interruption or mentions. It's a shitty film, that doesn’t pass in spirit, but technically it is Bechdel approved.
>~<
Message posted on 2011-01-05 08:57:32
Aris Katsaris said:
It passes the Bechdel test clearly -- because of the discussion about the graduation speech, because of Esme asking Jane to spare the third vampire, and yes even because of Caroline discussing with Bella about being a vampire (which includes a mention of Edward and Caroline's abuser, but is not *about* those people)

People complaining about the worthiness of the Bechdel test as a whole can do so elsewhere. This movie however passes it easily.
Message posted on 2011-03-25 06:48:09
ashley henderson said:
these are just a few instances, off the top of my head to prove that Eclipse passes this test with flying colours:
1)Bella and her Mother, Renne openly discuss their relationship and Bella's plans for college
2)Rosalie explains her back story to Bella and tries to convince her that becomming a vampire is not the right choice
3)Bella interacts on multiple occasions with her female school friends, who all have names (Angela, Jessica, Lauren, etc)
Message posted on 2011-05-26 13:16:46
Rachelle R said:
Is there some rule that says the conversation as a whole cannot include any mention of a guy? Because Bella and her mother do discuss Bella's relationship with Edward, but that's not the ONLY thing they talk about.

@Aris Katsaris: There's no "Caroline" in this film or book. The character you're describing is Rosalie, who was played by a woman named Nikki. Are you referring to a foreign language version of the film with different character names?
Message posted on 2011-06-21 02:12:45

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