Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[3]] Dune (2021) [imdb]

This movie passed 3 of 3 tests. It was entered by Léa on 2021-09-16 08:04:46.



Léa said:
There is only one scene where two named female characters talk to each other: it is the scene bewteen Lady Jessica and Gaius Helen Mohiam, but they are talking about Paul during the entire dialogue.
Message posted on 2021-09-16 08:04:46
Saruman of Many Colours said:
I think the dialogue between Lady Jessica and the Shadout Mapes passes the test.
Message posted on 2021-10-04 16:30:09
Cohen said:
I am not sure if this counts, but I remember Jessica and Shadout Mapes having a conversation about the crysknife/prophecy, in which Shadout Mapes 'tests' Jessica.
If this counts then the movie passed 3/3 tests.
Message posted on 2021-10-06 12:48:30
Lou said:
Doesn't the scene between Shadout Mapes and Lady Jessica count ?
Message posted on 2021-10-07 07:09:05
Sarah said:
Shadout Mapes and Lady Jessica talk about the crysknife and Shai-hulud.
Message posted on 2021-10-07 15:51:42
Jana said:
lady jessica talks to Shadout Mapes (who hands her the knife) about arrakis' language, tradition and profecies. And also Liet Kines and lady Jessica talk about how they will escape from the sardaukar, is not very much but still :)
Message posted on 2021-10-08 07:35:27
Lucia said:
Jessica has two more interactions with female characters:
- the conversation with Shadout Mapes boils back to the Lisan-al-Gaib legend (mother and the son)
- Kynes addressing both Jessica and Paul in the ecological station (this might barely pass the test)
Message posted on 2021-10-17 12:34:15
Alex said:
What about the (admittedly brief) Jessica/Mapes interaction?
Message posted on 2021-10-19 01:47:50
luminum said:
The rating is completely wrong. It's a full pass.

Lady Jessica and Shadout Mapes speak when Shadout delivers the crysknife to her as a sign that she is the prophesied Reverend Mother. Lady Jessica first asks her name, then she and Mapes speak about Jessica knowing their language. Mapes is sure Jessica is the one and ecstatically explains what the knife is and what it signifies.

Later, Lady Jessica and Dr. Liet-Kynes talk in the airship, and Dr. Liet-Kynes instructs her to drink.

Later, Dr. Liet-Kynes explains to both Paul and Jessica what they need to do to escape the Harkonnen attack. Jessica asks why she isn't going with them, and Liet-Kynes responds that she has her own way of surviving in the desert.
Message posted on 2021-10-19 05:14:35
Simon said:
Should be a 3.

There is a conversation between Jessica and Shadout Mapes when Mapes is selected as housekeeper about 40 minutes into the film.

They talk about Mapes and the Crysknife.
Message posted on 2021-10-22 07:59:26
Alex Raymundo said:
Lady Jessica talks to Shadout Mapes about knives and religion
Message posted on 2021-10-22 23:59:06
Elizabeth Vaughn said:
Shadout Mapes and Jessica have a whole conversation about the crysknife and Jessica being "The one" in the scene where a housekeeper is chosen.
Message posted on 2021-10-23 00:43:50
Sam said:
There is a scene in which Lady Jessica is looking for a housekeeper. The woman is named Shadout Mapes and they have a conservation about a weapon.
Message posted on 2021-10-23 03:45:29
Emma Dusting said:
I think it does pass because Lady Jessica talks to Shadout Mapes when she has the concealed weapon.
Message posted on 2021-10-23 14:51:31
Jesse said:
What about when Shadout Mapes speaks to Lady Jessica?
Message posted on 2021-10-23 19:43:18
Z said:
I guess you don't consider Shadout a woman? She talks to Jessica early in the film, not about men. And Jessica and Liet also have an exchange.
Message posted on 2021-10-23 19:56:16
Francis said:
Shadout Mapes and Jessica have a conversation and it's not about a man.

Message posted on 2021-10-23 20:00:23
James said:
What about the conversation between Lady Jessica and the Shadout Mapes?
Message posted on 2021-10-23 21:40:59
Globe said:
Shadout Mapes and Lady Jessica are both named, and have a conversation.
Message posted on 2021-10-24 04:43:12
Megan said:
But what about when Lady Jessica talks to the servant she hires who gives her the knife? I think she says her name right before that and they talk about something other than Paul. I *think.* I’m genuinely curious. Either way, if that’s true, it passes on a really ridiculous technicality. Beautiful cinematics, dumpster fire with regards to the Bechdel test.
Message posted on 2021-10-24 06:43:19
BadgerBait said:
Lady Jessica talks to Shadout Mapes while choosing a servant. Much of the conversation revolves around a gift. This scene should be enough to pass all 3 tests.

There are 4 named female characters. Lady Jessica shares scenes with all of them. She doesn't interact with Chani, Her interactions with Liet-Kynes are with Paul taking center stage, the only time Kynes isn't addressing Paul is when she is issuing orders to both Paul and Lady Jessica. The conversation is not centered around a man but does refer to the Emperor several times and his daughters once.

Liet-Kynes was a gender swap from the original story.

The conversation with Gaius Helen Mohiam, as stated by Léa, revolved around Paul.
Message posted on 2021-10-24 12:54:33
Steve said:
At 1:53 liet kynes and Lady Jessica have a conversation about escaping. Paul dose not say anything until Liet wishes both of them good luck. I’m not sure this passes (I’m new sorry). It seems this conversation is not really about Paul and more about survival.
Message posted on 2021-10-25 08:54:36
Steve said:
I disagree with the rating. At about 40 minutes into the film Lady Jessica is presented with a line of women to be considered for the job of housekeeper. Lady Jessica stops halfway down the line and asks a woman her name (Shadout Mapes). She immediately dismisses all but Mapes. As the others leave, Lady Jesica talks about the name "Shadout" and its meaning "well dipper" and says (in another language) that Mapes is "Fremen". Shadout points out that Lady Jessica knows "the ancient tongues" to which Jessica replies that she knows "many things". Lady Jessica then says "I know you have a weapon concealed in your bodice". The conversation continues with a warning about the folly of trying to use it ("Whatever you're hiding, it won't be enough"). Shadout then proceeds to explain that the weapon is a gift... "If you are truly the one". Shadout slowly reveals a knife and asks Lady Jessica if she knows what it is. With the reply "It's a crysknife" Shadout asks "Do you know it's meaning" and Lady Jessica answers "It is a maker". Shadout wails loudly and then says "A maker of the deep desert. When you have lived with prophecy for so long, the moment of revelation is a shock. Lisan al-Gaib. The mother and the son." She hands her the knife and says "it is yours. Tooth of Shai-Hulud".
Message posted on 2021-10-25 16:35:11
Brett Davidson said:
Jessica and Shadout Mapes talk. Paul is mentioned in terms of the prophecy of a 'mother and son' but the scene is about Jessica receiving the crysknife and is critical to her future status with the Fremen.
Message posted on 2021-10-26 04:15:18
Dog said:
There is a scene where Lady Jessica talks to her housekeeper, Shadout Mapes. They are both women, and they talk about indigenous culture and prophecy. The guard in the background is also a woman.
Message posted on 2021-10-26 19:05:31
Keira said:
The rating should be a 3 because of 3 scenes.

Lady Jessica talks to Shadout Mapes about crysknives and fremen culture.

Lady Jessica and Liet Kynes talk about Harkonnens and later about drinking through the stillsuit.
Message posted on 2021-10-30 20:47:34
neil (webmaster) said:
I've updated the rating from 2/3 to 3/3.
Message posted on 2021-11-01 06:12:46
Romain said:
If there is a part two it might be more obvious since character like Chani and Alya should take a much bigger part.
Message posted on 2021-12-10 13:23:33

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