Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[3]] Pulp Fiction (1994) [imdb]

This movie passed 3 of 3 tests. It was entered by neil on 2008-07-29 17:23:28.

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Miranda said:
Not true.

In the scene where Vincent Vega goes to bug drugs over at Lance’s place, in the other room his wife, Jody is talking to Trudi about piercings. Last time I checked, piercings were not men.
Message posted on 2010-05-16 12:56:31
Foggen said:
Miranda is absolutely right. She mentions fellatio, but only incidentally. The point of the conversation is the piercings.
Message posted on 2010-05-27 20:24:11
neil (webmaster) said:
I've updated the rating from 1/3 to 3/3.
Message posted on 2012-01-05 22:34:20
Trina B disagreed with the rating and said:
I dont know, I think it's dubious at best. She might be technically talking about a piercing (her tongue ring), but again, to say, "it enhances fellatio" references men, even if the topic is technically tongue piercings.
Message posted on 2013-05-24 12:21:38
David said:
In the scene, Jody doesn't make her fellatio remark until Vincent asks about her tongue stud, so her conversation with Trudi is technically over at that point. The only dubious part of the scene is Jody starts off by telling Trudi that piercing is like "turning every part of your body into the tip of a penis" (or something??) which doesn't reference men specifically, but she is using a penis as a point of comparison. Not sure if that disqualifies it or not, but it seems a little irrelevant.
Message posted on 2013-07-05 09:24:56
frankie johnny said:
even if fellatio references 'men', it doesn't reference 'a man'.
'men' are conceptual, a discussion about 'men' is philosophy.
discussion about 'a man' is another thing entirely.
Message posted on 2013-07-05 17:36:34
csconstant said:
I agree with David. The conversation between Jody and Trudi is over by the time Vincent buts in and she tells him the reasons for a tongue piercing.

I don't think the reference that a piercing "turns every part of your body into the tip of a penis" would serve to disqualify the conversation.

Firstly, and as I take the definition in the Bechdel test to mean, they are not talking about a specific man. I think the 3rd limb of the test is to show that women can, do and should talk about things other than what males are doing. So all too often women will only talk about what the male protagonist is doing, as if thats the most important thing in the world to them.

Secondly, it doesn't even refer to men in general (note that the test refers to a man, not men, i've just added this for completeness). This is to suggest that women only ever talk about men, again as if they're the most important thing in their lives and that there's nothing else for them to talk about. That is to say they don't talk about love, marriage etc. This conversion is not like that at all. Jody is merely making a comparison. Also she has a whole monologue on piercing with a needle instead of a gun.

For these reasons I think this is definitely a qualifying conversation.
Message posted on 2013-10-18 02:43:17
Ryan Kinney said:
So wait, Trina, women cannot talk about sex now? Because that inherently has to do with a man? What if the woman worked for a men's clothing store, or coached a little league boys baseball team, and spoke about work with another woman? Just because men are implicitly involved in what they're talking about that's not the test. They aren't talking about "a man" or about "men". This is a classic example of getting too bogged down in rules and are losing sight of the real issue.
Message posted on 2014-03-11 23:52:53
Yutolia said:
You are also all assuming she's straight and could only possibly be talking about a man going down on her. Yes, she has a boyfriend, but she could be bi - she never says specifically "it enhances fellatio from men"
Message posted on 2015-12-30 18:12:28
Antha said:
Not sure where this "tip of a penis" quote is coming from.. the word "penis" doesn't appear in the screenplay and nothing like the line you mentioned is in the exchange between Judy and Trudi: www.imsdb.com/scripts/Pulp-Fiction.html
Message posted on 2016-01-03 07:42:50
HBa disagreed with the rating and said:
I think that if there's only a single conversation a few seconds long in an entire movie and we can't even clearly distinguish if it's about a/her guy, the test is failed.
Message posted on 2016-08-28 19:53:22
Sarah said:
This was the movie I came to check first as I wondered how the piercings scene would be taken.

One could argue the conversation between the women technically passes as the women are discussing piercings, and a penis is a male appendage but not a man.

However, if the conversation between the women only exists to set up a comment to a man about performing fellatio (not oral sex as some are saying but fellatio which is by definition sucking dick), one could argue that it sort of fails.

Personally I think it's a technical pass and enjoy reading the differing opinions. Think the test and its origins are very clever and informative :)
Message posted on 2017-07-13 17:22:16
Grace said:
People keep mentioning the fact that Jody mentions a penis and the act of fellatio, but this doesn't reference men in the slightest. Penises are not equivalent to men. Women can also have penises.
Message posted on 2019-10-01 16:35:23

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