Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[1]] Kubo and the Two Strings (2016) [imdb]

This movie passed 1 of 3 tests. It was entered by Raikaiko on 2016-08-24 20:55:56.



Raikaiko said:
Kubo and the Two Strings passes the Mo Movie Rule version of the Bechdel Test, but not the revised version used on this site. There are multiple named female characters, thought some are only named in the credits or in the script such as Kubo's mother Saritu, but at least two of these characters are named on screen, Monkey and Minae, the daughter of George Takei's character.
There is a long conversation between two of the women in the film, during one of the films action sequences. A character falling in love with a man is briefly brought up, but entirely in the context of the female character and her arc, and there is enough conversation preceding this that the conversation would still stand as a conversation if that bit where removed. What keeps this conversation from passing the test is that it is between a named character, Monkey, and one of the two Sisters who are given no names beyond that title
Message posted on 2016-08-24 20:55:56
Sanjay disagreed with the rating and said:
This is one of those instances where I think holding the fact that a woman is only known by her title runs counter to the spirit of the rule. I always understood that rule to avoid arbitrarily passing a movie because a woman orders coffee from an unnamed barista.

It's not as clear cut as, say Dame Judy Dench's turn as M in the James Bond franchise, but if the Moon King, the film's Big Bad, is only ever known by his title, holding that against his daughter seems petty. (Plus, since, as a toy, Monkey was called Mr. Monkey, I think it's fair to call that a name, if an unimaginative one.)

However, I also question that the conversation during the duel on the ship counts as "about something other than a man". The conversation centers around Kubo's mother, but specifically her "betrayal" of her father, marriage to her husband, and protection of her son (and the effect those things had on herself and her sisters).
Message posted on 2016-08-30 23:19:55
Jen said:
There is plenty of conversation between Monkey and the Sisters, solely about who of them has the strongest magic and most fighting prowess. If only the Sisters had been named! The handful of other female characters don't speak to each other or, at best, one speaks to another but the other doesn't speak back (e.g. the spirits of the departed).
Message posted on 2016-09-06 06:54:11
Powers disagreed with the rating and said:
The fact that the Sisters' names are unknown doesn't keep them from qualifying for the Test, IMO. They are primary characters who are identified by the protagonists and have specific character traits and motivations. It meets the spirit of the Test, if not the Letter.
Message posted on 2017-05-11 14:19:44
Drew disagreed with the rating and said:
The sisters are not extras in this film, they're major roles.

The namelessness is world building, not a signal that the characters are minor extras.

Monkey and Sister's extended conversation covers many topics- but they downplay the role of men in the story (there's much talk of 'power' and 'love' and even 'family' as well as Monkey's choice).
Message posted on 2018-02-01 23:03:26
Drew Olds disagreed with the rating and said:
The Sisters have as much name as Monkey, Beetle and Moon King.
Message posted on 2018-02-01 23:29:21

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