Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[2]] Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) [imdb]

This movie passed 2 of 3 tests. It was entered by cass-cain on 2016-03-26 03:16:43.

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cass-cain said:
While there are five women in the movie (Martha Wayne [deceased], Martha Kent, Lois Lane, Mercy Graves, and Diana Prince), none of them talk to one another or even another random woman. Martha Kent only speaks to Lois Lane in order to console her in light of something happening to Clark Kent (in which the emphasis is on Lois' romantic relationship with Clark, not Martha's parental relationship).
Message posted on 2016-03-26 03:16:43
TJ said:
Senator Finch did speak to a woman during a court hearing. It was about the trauma she endured, however she is never named.
Message posted on 2016-03-29 08:48:08
Richard said:
Martha and Lois do interact briefly towards the end of the film. So the film certainly passes at least 2 of the 3 tests.

They speak (very briefly) about Lois and Clark's relationship. So whether this constitutes passing the third test is more open to debate. Personally I would say that if it does pass, it passes only the letter, rather than the spirit of the test.
Message posted on 2016-03-31 20:24:48
Poor Dick said:
At the time of this comment, this movie is listed as passing 1 of 3 tests by cass-cain. However, cass-cain's comment indicates that this movie should pass two tests, citing that Martha Kent and Lois Lane speak to each other.
Message posted on 2016-04-02 06:13:28
Matthew said:
It's been over a week but I am sure that Lois talked to her fellow Daily Planet colleague Jenny in the office about something that wasn't about a man and simply about work. It was a simple conversation but one I think I remember happening.
Message posted on 2016-04-02 21:01:03
RaMaKblog said:
Shouldn't this be 2/3? Martha Kent and Lois Lane do speak (requirement #2) even if it is about a man.
Message posted on 2016-04-03 02:54:14
neil (webmaster) said:
I've updated the rating from 1/3 to 2/3.
Message posted on 2016-04-06 20:32:13
Alex said:
Jenny informs Lois that the crime lab is in line one, and Lois thanks her. This scene expands into the vandalism of the Superman memorial.

(I was thinking it didn't pass until I remembered that exchange.)
Message posted on 2016-04-12 17:09:26
Sean said:
This comment is to concur with Alex. Lois does have a conversation with Jenny regarding work and the crime lab. This rating should be changed from 2/3 to 3/3.
Message posted on 2016-04-22 18:26:51
Llewelyn said:
The movie filled all three criteria.
There were at least two named female characters (Lois, Diana, Martha, Jenny, Finch, Mercy, Vicky?).
Who talk to each other (Martha and Lois, Lois and Jenny).
About something besides a man (Jenny and Lois).
Message posted on 2016-04-28 12:29:32
Llewelyn said:
Also, I think it was established in the Age of Ultron rating that characters named in the credits count. This would add-
Sage, Kahina Ziri, Martha Wayne (Although she's named in the movie), Major Ferris (Who I think was named in film), LeBlanc, Carmen, Soledad O'Brien (Does she count?), and Lana.
Message posted on 2016-04-28 13:08:44
Kris said:
As stated above, this rating needs to be rectified to 3/3 due to the Jenny interaction and the characters named in credits.
Message posted on 2016-05-13 10:50:27
neil (webmaster) said:
I've updated the rating from 2/3 to 3/3.
Message posted on 2016-05-15 06:12:58
Stephen Monteith said:
The Ultimate Edition has several conversations between named women. Jena Malone's character, Jenet Klyburn, speaks with Lois Lane about bullets, explosives, and metals. Kahina Ziri is named in the movie itself rather than just in the credits, and she speaks with Senator Finch both in and out of the Senate hearings, as well as with the Senator's aide. There are quite a few important female characters in this film who don't get the chance to talk with each other, as well, but impact the plot all the same.
Message posted on 2016-06-29 06:18:29
Natalie said:
I rewatched the movie and the exact words jenny says are "lois. crime lab, on 3" after which lois turns away without saying a word and picks up the phone. I disagree with the current 3/3 rating because I don't think this interaction qualifies as a conversation since lois and jenny don't actually talk to each other. Jenny says a total of 5 words to lois (which isn't even a proper sentence, just a few key words put together without as much as verb to connect them) and even though lois acknowledges jenny's statement, she doesn't actually speak to jenny at all. Lois and jenny have as much interaction as i have with my dog when i tell it to "go fetch the ball", but i wouldn't exactly go as far as to say that my dog and I are talking to each other either.
Message posted on 2016-08-07 20:06:23
neil (webmaster) said:
I've updated the rating from 3/3 to 2/3.
Message posted on 2016-08-08 20:53:29
Ben said:
I don't know if this counts or not, but in the ultimate cut of the film, Jenny Klyburn (Jena Malone) and Lois Lane (Amy Adams) speak to each other in a very Bechdel kosher way at the crime lab.
Message posted on 2016-08-13 05:55:17
Sam said:
The updated Ultimate Edition features two scenes where Lois talks to a ballistics investigator (she was cut from the theatrical cut). First scene they discussed the bullet lodged in Lois's journal and the second scene they discuss a motorized wheelchair being lined with lead. This should be updated to 3/3
Message posted on 2016-08-17 11:36:32
Anton said:
I agree with the current 2/3 rating for the theatrical cut but as Stehen mentioned the recently released ultimate edition has significantly expanded dialog between the mentioned female characters. So there should be another entry to reflect this.
Message posted on 2016-08-23 08:18:03
neil (webmaster) said:
I've updated the rating from 2/3 to 3/3.
Message posted on 2016-08-28 10:32:53
Neil NP said:
I assumed before reading this page that it was about the theatrical cut, rather than the directors cut. I suggest that the 2/3 rating for the theatrical cut should apply; in general unless otherwise specified we should always use the theatrical version.

Because the "Ultimate Edition" has gotten a lot of attention, I also suggest a new review be created for it separately and then both the 2/3 and the 3/3 ratings can be easily seen.
Message posted on 2016-08-28 14:26:11
BLM said:
I agree with Neil NP
Message posted on 2016-11-15 13:01:43
BLM said:
I agree with Neil NP.
This is 2/3, and a new page should be created for the Ultimate Cut.
Message posted on 2016-11-17 13:53:24
neil (webmaster) said:
I've updated the rating from 3/3 to 2/3.
Message posted on 2016-12-04 18:46:42

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