Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[3]] 10 Cloverfield Lane (2016) [imdb]

This movie passed 3 of 3 tests. It was entered by Casual_Optimist on 2016-03-13 03:56:42.

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Casual_Optimist said:
The film has one named female character, Michelle, played by Mary Elizabeth Winstead. She interacts with three named male characters, Ben, Howard, and Emmett. She does interact with one other woman, and they talk about something besides a man (the woman is begging Michelle to let her into the bunker), but the other woman is unnamed (she is credited as "woman" in the final credits).
Message posted on 2016-03-13 03:56:42
manfesto said:
Since she did interact with another woman, and they didn't talk about a man, shouldn't it be 2 of 3 tests?
Message posted on 2016-03-18 19:39:56
Carlos said:
Even though the woman the lead speaks to is uncredited, in the film John Goodman's character says her name was Leslie. It would be a shame to dismiss this movie with such a strong and well constructed female character be dismissed by this tiny fact.
Message posted on 2016-03-20 00:44:44
delayedkarma said:
Howard states that the woman outdoors was a neighbor who he thinks was named Leslie. She speaks to Michelle about being let in from the situation outdoors. This should pass.
Message posted on 2016-03-20 01:02:20
moviewatcher said:
The older woman was named by John Goodman's character later after the encounter at the door. He said that was Leslie (?) his neighbor who lived nearby and knew of his bunker.
Message posted on 2016-03-20 07:45:17
Bre said:
The woman is later named in the movie as Leslie. They have a discussion that she was one of Howard's neighbors.
Message posted on 2016-03-21 16:33:30
MRS said:
It is not required for the other woman to be named in the credits. This passes the criteria clearly: two women exchanging words about something other than men, in this case entry to the bunker.
Message posted on 2016-03-22 20:05:23
katydid said:
The woman is named; Howard mentions that she is his neighbor Leslie.
Message posted on 2016-03-23 06:22:50
neil (webmaster) said:
I've updated the rating from 0/3 to 3/3.
Message posted on 2016-03-23 20:46:47
Alexandre disagreed with the rating and said:
The protagonist is Michelle. The other female character who is not a photograph may or may not be called Leslie, and screams at Michelle in the only scene where she appears in the movie. Problem is: what does "talk" mean? It feels, to me, that "10 Cloverfield Lane" only passes the first Bechdel test, because Michelle never talks to Leslie - she talks to Howard about Leslie.
Message posted on 2016-05-09 00:56:58
OlivierAM disagreed with the rating and said:
I cannot agree with the rating, since the two female characters are NOT talking to each other. One is begging the other to let her in, which is dismissed by the other character. This is NOT a conversation.
I thus agree with Alexandre.
Message posted on 2016-05-11 06:43:55
SamBeringer disagreed with the rating and said:
I agree with Alexandre and OlivierAM with this rating; while Michelle is the film's protagonist, the other woman -- Leslie -- is barely a character. She exists only to hint at something going on outside and nothing more. What's more, as has been pointed out above, Michelle doesn't actually talk to Leslie during the scene, so it's not really a conversation.

I've seen comments about how the film shouldn't be dismissed because Michelle is a strong, capable character. And while she is one of the best parts of the movie (especially since her actress has to hold her own against acting-powerhouse John Goodman) and while I really enjoyed this film, I think people miss the point of the Bechdel-Wallace test. It's not meant to judge a single film's feminist value; it's meant to shed light on a larger ongoing problem regarding the representation of women in the media. One film not passing is one thing. The majority of films released in a year not passing is a whole different issue.
Message posted on 2016-05-31 16:11:34
Louis disagreed with the rating and said:
They never talk to each other. Leslie yells to let her in. Michelle tells Howard about the woman at the door, but never actually addresses the woman directly. Never even a "sorry, you can't come in". Leslie talks to Michelle, Michelle talks to Howard. They never actually talk to "each other". Thus I don't think it passes fully on the test.
Message posted on 2016-06-01 08:11:00
doubtfire said:
Leslie and Michelle interact. The interaction is very important to both of them - Leslie dies because of Michelle's refusal to open the bunker, and Michelle is convinced the air outside is actually poisonous, which significantly changes her attitude towards Howard and being in the bunker.

Of course it is a sign of the broader issue of gender representation in movies that we are debating whether this single interaction constitutes a pass. But looking only at the test, each character has at least one speech which has the other as the intended listener - that's a clear pass to me.
Message posted on 2016-06-02 03:24:16
sudon't said:
It passes the test, but barely. Really, I could accept either interpretation. I think that, if anything, it shows the limitations of such a simple test, (as well as saying something about movies which can't pass it!). Obviously, we have a movie with a strong, well-fleshed-out, female character. She's the main protagonist. Should it be dismissed simply because it fails a strict interpretation of the Bechdel-Wallace test? Perhaps the test needs tweaking?
Message posted on 2016-06-06 22:31:06
Tea Golem disagreed with the rating and said:
I think it would be 1 out of 3 because Michelle never actually talks to Leslie, her responses are always to Howard.
Message posted on 2016-06-17 19:43:49
addie disagreed with the rating and said:
I think this should be 1/3. Michelle doesn't talk to Leslie. Just because 1 named woman is yelling at another named woman doesn't mean they are talking to each other. Every single thing Michelle says is directed at Howard. This isn't a pass.
Message posted on 2016-06-22 10:47:37
Mark Smith said:
I agree with Sudon't - this film clearly exposes the limitations of the Bechdel test.
Message posted on 2016-09-05 07:42:09
anon said:
the bechdel test is feminist propoganda in order to censor pieces of artwork that doesn't feature women as a main role in the movie.
if a movie having a role dedicating to a specific gender bothers you, you are sexist.
Message posted on 2016-10-06 15:12:32
Pies disagreed with the rating and said:
The movie does not pass the test, since the women don't speak to each other. There is no conversation.

There are great movies that have no conversation at all, and that's fine. But they do not pass the test. Just because a movie is great, or even that it has a strong female character doesn't make it pass the Bechdel test.

The movie has male characters speaking with each other, having conversations, doesn't it? It's not a documentary about penguins? It's not a movie about the internal workings of an all-male convent? So the lack of a single conversation between to female characters is precisely why the Bechdel test came into public consciousness in the first place.
Message posted on 2016-10-18 10:46:45
aikugur disagreed with the rating and said:
For me it fails. 1: We don't really know her name. Leslie is how Howard names her, but the man tells a lot of lies (but OK, he "names" her). 2: They don't talk between them, there is no conversation. 3: As they don't talk, they don't talk about anything.
Message posted on 2016-11-11 14:22:30
Juanfraner disagreed with the rating and said:
IMO this doesn't pass. We don't even know whether the woman is called Leslie or not. Howard is not sure of her name, and even more, he could have been lying to Michelle and didn't know at all who was the woman. He does lie to michelle all the time.
Message posted on 2016-12-07 23:17:54
CT said:
The two men in the bunker wear long sleeve shirts over t shirt. Woman is wearing tight a-shirt over visible bra. wardrobe is relevant
Message posted on 2017-03-14 21:08:57

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