Detective Ramirez calls Jim Gordon's wife and they have a brief conversation about the Gordon family's safety. Ramirez is however under gun point, so one might say she's only relaying a man's words and it's not actually a conversation between two women.
Message posted on 2008-07-23 00:00:00
Jonny5 disagreed with the rating and said:
Having one women forced at gun point (by a man) to talk to another women does not really pass the test.
Message posted on 2009-11-17 04:02:35
Renee disagreed with the rating and said:
A warning does not denote an actual conversation.
Message posted on 2010-06-17 08:37:17
ot disagreed with the rating and said:
If the Bechdel test is designed to elicit examples of female representation, then this films fails.
Ramirez is under gunpoint, and her actions are entirely dictated by the male puppeteer.
IF Ramirez had a conversation about what it is like being under gunpoint, then it'd pass.
Message posted on 2010-12-31 14:37:06
CynicalOptimist said:
The test is supposed to be about female presence in a movie. If you're only introducing female characters as a token presence, then there's no real need for them to interact. If you treat them as real characters who happen to be female, there's far more chance they'll end up actually talking to each other.
I'd be tempted to give it a pass, the word 'conversation' isn't actually part of the Bechdel test as I've read it. The second rule says they should 'talk to each other', and I think that's for a good reason.
![[[3]]](/static/dubious.png "[There are two or more women in this movie and they talk to each other about something other than a man, although dubious]")
The Dark Knight (2008)
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