Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[1]] How to Train Your Dragon 2 (2014) [imdb]

This movie passed 1 of 3 tests. It was entered by Rognik on 2014-07-08 00:19:34.



Rognik said:
There are three named female characters: Astrid and Ruffnut from the first movie, and Hiccup's mother, Velka. However, I don't think any of them talk to each other in the span of the movie. Velka definitely doesn't talk to anyone outside of her husband, son and Gobber, and Ruffnut doesn't say much that isn't about some man or another.
Message posted on 2014-07-08 00:19:34
Megan said:
A brilliant part of this movie is when Hiccup tells Astrid to "stay close" instead of "stay back" while heading into a dangerous situation. Applause for that.
Message posted on 2014-07-12 20:15:46
Tibki said:
The movie definitely could've done with more female character development on parts aside from Valka--I'd've loved to see Valka's introduction to Astrid--but a few things can't be forgotten:
a, the movie is focusing on Hiccup's reuniting with his mother, and dealing with Drago and his chiefdom; a quick f/f conversation would've been nice, but wouldn't've added much to the plot, or, in the case of Valka-Astrid, possibly would've added ~too~ much. HTTYD 'verse has simple stories with a lot of humanity--throwing in a mother-in-law/daughter-in-law problem would've been overcliche and gone nowhere with the plot.
b, No woman is sexualized in this movie. Heck, two ~men~ are sexualized instead. ~Seriously~ important, especially since I can't think of another movie with a ~male~ lead that does the same. Dreamworks was seriously excited about its new fat-jiggling software, but all they used it for was Eret's arm and Fishlegs's face--not once is there a sexy shot that could possibly demean women.
Message posted on 2014-08-02 11:34:37
Khan said:
It fails and it fails hard. Astrid never speaks to Ruffnut about anything other than Hiccup, every damn line out of Ruffnut's mouth is about a man or men fawning over her and Valka never even shares a line with other females despite being in same scene. This movie could have, at the very least, made the female character's do something essential to plot, but no, they are all just objects of some male's affection, there to provide comfort for men and don't do anything that doesn't result in being captured or getting something killed. And Tibki, the sexualization of men in today's media isn't anything new, see Thor, Captain America and every other new superhero movie and even if it wasn't that wouldn't excuse the mistreatment of potentially amazing female leads.
Message posted on 2014-11-08 01:29:14
Erika disagreed with the rating and said:
I think the rating is wrong because Astrid and Ruffnut might not talk to each other one-on-one, but they talk out amongst the group a LOT. That deserves to be recognized before everyone bashes this wonderful movie. And yes, other characters developed more during this movie, but that doesn't mean Astrid and Ruffnut didn't as well. It just means we didn't see it. Valka had a big character INTRODUCTION. Not development. She couldn't have developed much if we had just met her as a character. So, yeah. I disagree.
Message posted on 2014-11-15 01:53:39
khan is a fucking idiot disagreed with the rating and said:
khan, try rewatching the ENTIRE movie because lemme tell ya somethin pal. if you were in astrid's position with a partner or valka's position with a child or spouse, you'd probs do the same thing. as for ruffnut, snotlout and fishlegs do the SAME THING so stop acting like it's a female-exclusive gag. as far as valka-astrid interaction, it really wouldn't have added to the plot at all. not to mention, valka had NO IDEA who astrid was until hiccup kissed her. then right after hiccup was announced chief. so get off your goddamn tumblr feminist high horse and pay attention to what's going on around you. not everything is sexist and a shitty test like this one doesn't accurately portray movie quality. grow up.
Message posted on 2014-11-19 12:09:25
SirEdmund said:
Regardless of whether or not you like this movie, this is a simple pass/fail situation. HtTYD 2 fails the test. Whether or not you feel an added conversation between two women about something other than a man would detract from the movie is irrelevant.
Message posted on 2014-12-09 22:19:22
Miss_Nomer said:
The worst thing about this film is its treatment of Astrid. She went from being the series' most focused and dedicated up-and-coming warrior to being a simpering sidekick.

In the first movie, Astrid was all business. In this one, she's all giggles. In the first movie she aspired to be Berk's best dragon fighter. In this film, she responds to her boyfriend's possible promotion by promising to spend her time looking after his dragon for him while he's out working.

Astrid doesn't *want* anything for herself in this film. She's just there to help Hiccup. Urgh.

(None of this is to mention the wince-inducing and utterly pointless subplot involving Ruffnut's romantic life. Double urgh).
Message posted on 2015-02-08 01:47:23

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