Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[3]] The Incredibles (2004) [imdb]

This movie passed 3 of 3 tests. It was entered by neil on 2008-07-20 00:00:00.

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Jana C.H. disagreed with the rating and said:
I give it a two and a half, not a three. The only conversation between two women is the one in which Edna is telling Helen about her costume designs, and Helen is talking about her husband. Their conversation at cross-purposes is the main joke of the scene.
Message posted on 2011-10-12 08:31:53
Moonshadow Kati said:
Definitely a 3/3. Jana is forgetting the conversation about responsibility between Helen and Violet. While the conversation physically includes a man (Dash) it is not about men. Come to think of it, there is also the scene on the plane where Helen urges Violet to use her power to shield them.
Message posted on 2011-11-03 22:31:54
Thalaas said:
3/3 Helen has a half dozen conversations with Violet. I mean, maybe the one with Edna might be sort of about a guy, but only vaguely. Not to mention Helen talks to Mirage briefly.
Message posted on 2012-09-15 23:49:01
Kit said:
The mother also urges Violet to be strong when she apologises fo hesistating to use her powers. But next time, can't the newly confident Violet just get over her crush and be completely independent? You don't see that in movies often (for either gender).
Message posted on 2012-09-24 10:19:09
Kiley said:
This is totally 3/3- Helen talks to violet outside the cave about being brave and knowing what to do when the times comes. That's a meaningful conversation that advances the plot and it has nothing to do with men!
Message posted on 2013-01-18 19:42:41
Michael S disagreed with the rating and said:
Two at best. Violet is not an adult she is a teenage girl. There are no conversations between two adult women about a subject that doesn't involve a man.
Message posted on 2013-07-29 19:44:29
N. said:
I object to those saying Violet doesn't count, it's kind of ageist. While it's natural for a mother and daughter to speak if there is a mother and daughter in a film, you have to admit that Violet and Helen are not talking about boys, boyfriends, love or kissing (common mother/daughter topics) and they are not talking about any other male characters, and Violet actually refuses to talk about the boy she likes. Helen also talks to the babysitter, who is shown and named, and really, though they are talking about Jack Jack does a male infant count as a man?

And while The Incredibles isn't perfect, it has a lot more named female characters with speaking lines than I think any other Pixar film.
Message posted on 2013-10-26 23:28:08
VeggieTart said:
While it's true Edna and Helen talk about clothes, Edna's job is making outfits for superheroes; she's going to talk about clothes. But it's more in the sense of the material's properties than a fluffy "fashion" conversation.

And while Violet is a teenage girl, Helen is encouraging her to use her powers to protect herself and her brother. It counts.
Message posted on 2014-01-09 11:52:41
Gabe said:
N is absolutely right. If the conversation between Helen and Violet outside the cave doesn't count because Violet is a girl and not a woman, then the conversation between Helen and Cori does because Jak Jak is a boy and not a man, You can't count Jak Jak as a man but not count Violet as a woman.
Message posted on 2015-05-25 17:20:05
ShawmK said:
I agree that the conversations between Helen and Violet allow this film to pass, but I wonder about the scenes involving Edna, as her character is actually voiced by a man (Brad Bird). Does that have any bearing? I'm genuinely not sure.
Message posted on 2018-01-08 11:38:20
Drew Olds said:
Definitely a clear pass.

There are many films that pass via teenage characters or younger girls.

Don't introduce age into it, the film is a hard pass.
Message posted on 2018-02-25 19:28:41
Brianne said:
If Bart Simpson still counts as a male character despite being voiced by a woman, then Edna Mode still counts as a female character.
Message posted on 2018-02-28 19:50:05

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