Bechdel Test Movie List

really? even counting the "grownup" female characters like Professor McGonagal and Mrs. Weasley? bummer...

What about Narcissa and Bellatrix Lestrange? And Professor McGonagal asks Leanne (the friend of Katie Bell, the girl who touches the cursed necklace) about what happened to Katie.

I also think it passes - Katie and Leanne argue about the necklace.

Considering those comments (haven't seen it myself) I've changed the rating to 3 out of 3.

Ginny and Luna do talk to each other about nargles, or something, on the train. For about two seconds.

Well, Narcissa and Bellatrix talk about Draco, and about Voldemort.

Also, in most of the movies, two female characters will discuss men, but often the men being discussed are Death Eaters or Voldemort, so they are discussing men that they have no romantic interest in and are relevant to current events happening within the series. It's like discussing politics.

Women discussing plot issues involving men, but not relationships with the men should count for test 3.

I disagree with the distinction - discussing men with whom the women have no romantic involvement- and don't think it should count. It still makes the men the focal point and the women bit players revolving around them. Their 'ghost' presence creates an imbalance.

The women cannot discuss men AT ALL for this to count. Think about it, men can go on indefinitely in a movie without mentioning a woman.

Discussing "Death Eaters" is not the same as discussing men, because (a), not all Death Eaters are men, and (b) it's a monolithic group, so it's like saying that talking about the British government is discussing men.

I just wanted to put in a brief mention that Narcissa and Bellatrix are not talking about a "man" they're talking about a boy, that boy being Narcissa's very at risk son. Just interesting to think about whether that counts. I think a mother talking about their child with her sister would pass, but I'm sure some, knowing Draco is male, might disagree.

Allie: Talking about ANY male person makes you fail the test, it doesn't matter if it's the woman's own son.

Sar: Agree about the "Death Eaters" - they are a monolithic entity neither male nor female, and if two named women talked about them the movie would pass.

@Nan: The rule says 3. About something besides a MAN

I'd like to think a boy is not a man, even though Draco (or at least Tom Felton) at that point is effectively a man. While it's true that men in movies could go ages without talking about a woman, much less a girl, it seems the potential is there to disqualify a woman talking about her pregnancy because the baby happens to be a boy vs. a girl.