This movie passed 3 of 3 tests. It was entered by LH on 2012-08-13 03:57:55.
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LH said:
At the scene Dr. Shearing's house, the female CIA agent gives Dr. Shearing her name and asks her a number of questions about her emotional state.
Message posted on 2012-08-13 03:57:56
3z said:
Additionally, the scene with Korean agent and her handler where they discuss the "chems."
Message posted on 2012-12-18 05:58:36
Amber disagreed with the rating and said:
The CIA agent ended up questioning her about the man who shot up the office. Conversation about a man.
Message posted on 2013-01-31 18:11:34
RobotQuest said:
Yes, but the conversation was hardly relationship oriented.
Isn't the Bechdel Test about trumping the trope of women being defined by their relationships?
Message posted on 2013-02-22 04:59:07
Ahoy said:
I think the spirit of the Bechdel test is more about women being marginalized as unimportant or uninteresting. IE - they have nothing interesting or of value to say unless it is concerning a man. Therefore, I don't think a relationship needs to be the focus of the conversation, just the idea that women have nothing better to talk about than their male counterparts.
I agree with Amber.
Message posted on 2013-02-26 02:49:22
Amber disagreed with the rating and said:
The test does not, in fact, say that the conversation has to be about a relationship with a man. "
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man" They talked about man, therefore it does not pass the test.
Message posted on 2013-02-27 06:46:06
LH said:
They don't just talk about the shooter. They talk about her emotional state, why she's planning on leaving, etc. It's an important scene in the film, and it upholds the test.
Message posted on 2013-04-11 21:17:15
Marzipan said:
Shearing and the CIA agent (Dr Dowd) also talk about the house, and Shearing asks what Dowd is a doctor of. To me it's a clear pass - they are two named women, they talk to each other, and they talk about things that aren't a man. Yes, some parts of their subsequent conversation have to do with men (and some parts have to do with women; Shearing's sister is mentioned), but that doesn't negate the conditions of the test, which were met.