Bechdel Test Movie List

/bech·del test/ n.
1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it
2. Who talk to each other
3. About something besides a man

[[3]] Safety Not Guaranteed (2012) [imdb]

This movie passed 3 of 3 tests. It was entered by jm on 2012-06-13 06:08:20.

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luminum said:
Has the original submitter seen the movie?

There are several named female characters--Darius, Belinda, Bridget, and Liz.

Bridget instructs Darius on where to put the towel paper, though Darius tells her that she's only trying to give her some change.

Darius also speaks with Belinda, though she's there to interview her about Kenneth, the two meet and introduce one another, and Belinda expresses her excitement at being interviewed by a magazine, never mentioning a man. Only in a later scene do they begin talking about Kenneth.
Message posted on 2012-06-18 02:52:11
neil (webmaster) said:
I've updated the rating from 1/3 to 3/3.
Message posted on 2012-06-18 05:39:50
Maks disagreed with the rating and said:
This movie fails point 3. To address Iuminum's points:

- "Bridget" (whom I don't remember being named in the movie, though her name appears in the credits) has literally* less than 30 seconds of total screen time and her telling Darius to refill the toilet paper while talking on the phone doesn't qualify as a "conversation" in any real sense.

- Belinda and Darius do talk, but only about Kenneth. Their meeting goes exactly like this:

Darius knocks on the door. Belinda opens.
B: "Darius?"
D: "Hi."
B: "Hi. Nice to meet you."
D: "Nice to meet you."
B: "Come on in. I've never been interviewed by a magazine before."
Scene cuts to the living room:
B: "He worked at Anderson's which is the restaurant I waited at..."

"He" refers to Kenneth, and that's all they talk about -- this is literally* 12 seconds after opening the door. To suggest that the pleasantries in those first 12 seconds constitute a "conversation" on a separate topic is ridiculous.

None of the other women speak to one another, so I think it's clear this movie fails on point 3. I'm not even a feminist, but if people don't objectively apply the criteria of this test, what's the point of this site?

(* when I say literally, I mean literally. Go watch the )
Message posted on 2012-10-24 02:50:14
luminum said:
Actually, Maks, I DID watch the movie.

Here are the objective criteria:

"There are at least two or more women in this movie and they talk to each other about something other than a man."

Bridget has a name. She talks to Darius about where to put the toilet paper. Darius responds to her by telling her she is trying to give her change. Are they having a meaningful conversation? No. Are they communicating effectively? No. Are they talking to each other? Yes.

30 seconds has no merit in this test. Do you see a length requirement? No. Have people suggested a time requirement? Yes. Is one in the criteria? Again, no.

I count the scene between Belinda and Darius because the scene cuts and clearly there is a passage of time and change of subject matter from the door to the couch. Were Darius to say, "So, let's talk about Kenneth" or the scene is continuous from door to couch, then I would count it as one conversation and rule it ineligible.

But no. The conversation is:

B: "Darius?"
D: "Hi."
B: "Hi. Nice to meet you."
D: "Nice to meet you."
B: "Come on in. I've never been interviewed by a magazine before."

[Scene change where they're now seated and Darius is ready to interview her]

B: [Talking specifically about Kenneth]

It is scant. I don't argue that, but does it pass? Yes.

Before you make suggestions about how I might objectively apply the test, perhaps you should brush up on what the test's objective criteria actually are.
Message posted on 2012-11-21 19:23:18

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