This movie passed 3 of 3 tests. It was entered by sam on 2009-01-02 22:10:41.
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sam said:
There are strong female characters whose actions affect the plot, but they don't interact with each other.
Message posted on 2009-01-02 22:10:41
Red said:
Are children considered in this? If so, the character of Freda (little girl who rides with her brother from the Westfold to Edoras to sound the alarm) and Eowyn do technically talk, and it's not about a man either. They talk about where the little girl's mother is.
Message posted on 2011-03-07 19:34:23
Truan said:
in addition to the above statement, the same girl talks to her mom about whether or not her brother is big enough to ride the horse.
Message posted on 2011-06-23 18:33:41
Erik said:
but they are reunited in Helms Deep, and talking to echother! Freda "Mama!" Eowyn: "freda!".
So this movie should get 3 of 3...
Message posted on 2011-08-23 11:26:29
Lizard said:
The mother doesn't have a name. Cosidering, that the story is located in a fully different world with a new language, history and everything, it is more than poor, that all the important characters are white men. The women are in my opinion only there for showing men's strong personality, feelings, etc.
Message posted on 2013-03-06 19:25:26
Josephus said:
While this is somewhat off-topic, Lizard's comment about the story being "more than poor" would carry a little more weight if Tolkien hadn't specifically written The Lord of the Rings as a sort of surrogate British national mythology (because he felt there was no purely British mythology). In mythic Britain, pretty much everyone is gonna be white...
Message posted on 2013-10-18 04:02:38
Mike said:
If you're going back to Tolkien, then you'll find even fewer roles for women or female figures in general. This, despite the fact that the history of Britain is replete with strong women. Perhaps Tolkien really meant to write a mythology for British men only.
Message posted on 2015-12-04 00:16:12
Candice Lombardi said:
As Red said: Freda and Eowyn discuss where Freda's mother is.
Message posted on 2017-06-18 15:26:07
larisa5656 said:
Freda's mother is actually named Morwen. Below is the conversation between her and Freda.
MORWEN
Listen to me. You must ride to Edoras and raise the alarm. Do you understand me?
FREDA
[starts to cry] I dont wanna leave! I don't wanna go, Mama!
MORWEN
Freda, I will find you there.
Message posted on 2017-11-28 19:55:48
Matteo said:
Red and Larisa provided evidance of more then 2 women (Freda, Eowyn and Morwen) who speak with one another about war and rescue. The strangth of this test is it's simplictiy. This film passes the test and the ratings should be changed accordingly.
Message posted on 2018-03-04 18:56:11
frodd said:
The dialog with Morwen and Freda (minute 16:00 in the movie) also involves Éothain, the older brother of Freda. His dialog line is "Yes Mama". Shouldn't it be a female-only dialog?
Message posted on 2018-09-01 12:22:06
~N said:
Like pretty much everyone above said, Eowyn and Freda (two--named--female characters) interact with each other not about a man. If that doesn't count, then the rating should, AT THE VERY LEAST, be changed to 2/3.
Message posted on 2019-03-28 17:53:40
neil (webmaster) said:
I've updated the rating from 1/3 to 3/3.
Message posted on 2019-05-24 04:34:43
dd disagreed with the rating and said:
Rules 1 is "two [named] women".
is the mother's name given in the movie?
I checked in the subtitles file and I cannot find "Morwen" anywhere.
So for me, she is nameless.
Rule 2 is "they talk to each other".
When Freda is asking a question to Eowyn, Eowyn does not answer.
They don't talk to each other, it is not a dialog.
Message posted on 2020-08-30 20:22:14
Elf said:
To dd:
It is 3/3
Morwen is indeed in the credits of the Two Towers, and she has a clear dialogue with her daughter, Freda, as well. Thus passing the test with flying colors.