This movie passed 3 of 3 tests. It was entered by neil on 2008-07-30 22:25:17.
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Billy McKenna said:
This film passes the bechdel test many times over, and is refreshingly gender neutral. Managing to have complex female characters in positions of authority without drawing it to attention for a pat on the head, making it seem very natural. At no point in this film does a male character suggest his female commander is inferior because she's a woman and then get proven wrong, a trope, I'm sorry to say is used far to often by films trying to be pro-'gender equality'. This film manages to have feminine soldiers on an equal footing with men without reducing the male characters to simpering wimps or treating sex as a taboo. This film, contains nudity (of both genders), flirting, and a lot of sexual tension between various characters. It is unapologetic in portraying men with an active lustful sexuality and that is genuinely great. It's rare to have a film with such strong female characters that isn't a piece of misandristic man-hating neo-feminist crap.
Message posted on 2012-11-22 12:29:26
Antonio disagreed with the rating and said:
Although there are named female characters in this movie, they never talk to each other. There are very few one-on-one interactions in this movie, and most of them are between two men.
Message posted on 2016-02-02 00:14:04
SimianNinjew said:
Captain Deladier and Ibanez have several interactions (albeit brief ones) where they are not discussing a man. Also, Dizzy has a brief interaction with Corporal Birdie on joining the Roughnecks where she asks "Where else have you been besides Big K?"
The test doesn't specify a required length to the conversation, so this is definitely still a pass.
Message posted on 2016-06-19 05:22:18
mat said:
Dizzy and Carmen Ibanez greet each other at one point too. It's true that there are a lot of males (soldiers) in this film but the few female characters occupy positions of authority and seem to be treated in exactly the same way as the men - Capt. Deladier is Ibanez's superior, the failed general in Geneva is replaced by a woman, males and females even shower in a common space without embarrassment, strikingly. Answering Billy McKenna's remark, I think there is a point where "a male character suggest(s) his female commander is inferior because she's a woman and then get(s) proven wrong: Dizzy's male co-pilot, who is charged with training her, questions her possibly having improved the flight route but he is proved wrong by the computer.
Message posted on 2021-05-09 08:00:12
Donk said:
The incident mat brings up is not quite accurately described. The male co-pilot is not portrayed to think the suggested course is inferior due to her being a female, but rather due to her having zero experience at the point and being right out of flight school, yet managing to improve a flight plan he had made. Being more skilled than your instructor right out of flight school is something that would and should be doubted no matter the genders involved. The fact that he doesn't have a problem with checking if it's correct and no problem accepting that it was in fact an improvement when the computer determines so also shows that his motivations are not due to discriminatory views but rather motivated by his job and common sense.